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Nice to meet you. I value your contribution. The dichotomy between cosmic consciousness and Techno ontology is narrow and ill suited to understanding our interstellar context. A better model can emerge considering the idea of Consciousness Assisted Technology versus Technology Assisted Consciousness. if we place that on one horizontal continuum and cross it with a vertical axis then we can place another continuum of Material Form versus Forms without Mater. This vertical axis is coherent with our mystical traditions and has no recognition in our current physics. This idea servers to describe visitations and encounters that can be both sensorial /material and conscious/ nonmaterial ( or both ) This conceptual plane can be complemented by a third axis as necessary. For example Intent to exploit versus Exploration communication. Kastrups Ultra terrestrials or "Crypto terrestrial". The Earth crust is thick enough to hold many mysteries. If galactic travelers have known of this planet for millions of years, why have they not settled here before? and if so who of right mind would settle the surface of a planet prone to glaciating, catastrophes and invasions? It's not the form or content of the messages that validate theirs extraordinary origin. It is the medium used to establish and carry communication that matters. Ideas are conveyed by signs and symbols in written or spoken language. These are all indicators to meaning. Meaning exists before and above language. the statement recalls the nominalist vs the realist scholastic debate. The commentary oriented the reader to mind to possible mind communication. Intellectual thought needs witness that inactively. There is no need for subtractive hermeneutics.

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"...The tendency to favor either onto-techno theories or cosmic consciousness theories at the expense of the other is understandable." The UAP phenomena is poorly constrained; it's an experience by untrained observer of something beyond his world view. A "Planetary wide spiritual event" does not exclude onto technology, nor onto technology exclude Planetary wide Spiritual event. Know how of interstellar inter dimensional or trans temporal travel can include the context of spirit experiences as described in mystical literature. The uncannyarrises when the onto technological finds its clearest language in the mystical traditions of humans. Cultural advancement and spiritual realization may be a necessary ground to comprehend the interstellar context of our planet. Our current conscious culture may need to leap, not onto a higher material technology but onto a clear and comprehensive understanding of the cosmic character of consciousness. an ontology beyond the current medical material and causal conventions. and I read on. . .

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